would a rocket launcher be over-kill on a post-apoc AK-47?

...grenade launcher. Not rocket launcher.

Duct Tape + A halved binoc for a sniper weapon of sorts?

Cut the stock down to make a more machine pistol-like weapon and tape a flashlight to the bottom, it'll be dark after the apocalypse!

relevant? off of /k/

>>44
>...grenade launcher. Not rocket launcher

Depends, do you have ammo for it? If not then it's just a worthless tube with a trigger mechanism that takes up weight and space.

>>45
>Duct Tape + A halved binoc for a sniper weapon of sorts?

Do it.

Also, bump with content! Here's two AKs converted to 9mm with a drum Finnish Suomi SMG drum mags (actually an easy conversion if you have a machine shop).

And a cuter less tacticool version of the same conversion concept.

Here's something rusty and decrepit enough to be post-apocalyptic. First one I've found actually, most weapon image searches turn up nice clean weapons.

Not sure on the ID of the gun itself. Obviously a belt-fed MG, but the closest I could guess would DShK from (yet again) Russia.

Now this looks like it's home-made, and a piece of crap, but it probably fires a big bullet. So it's win!

>>45

While you could do it, with work...the affective range of the AK is something that anyone with half way decent vision, even close to the right prescription in glasses, and some training could do fine without a scope. They are only accurate for what...a couple hundred yards?

Wouldn't that depend on how well made the ammo is and the operator?

Not really. It's a matter of propellant. The bullets are only good for so much distance. Think of it this way. It doesn't matter how well made a football is. The distance it can be thrown is %90 the player throwing the ball.

The 7.62x39 round was made for urban combat, to provide a more effective round at closer ranges than the 7.62x51. It has less power. It has a 300 yard range, more or less, before bullet drop and so on make it almost completely inaccurate.

Maybe a scope would help at the extreme end of the range, sure. But for what the gun was designed for?

To shoot at americans in the jungles of south east asia? :P

Considering it was designed by a Russian, I'd say, you're about half right...A complete idiot, but "half right".

It was designed for fairly close combat. It's not a sniper riffle.

That's all for now.

>>70

I always liked that concept. mass produce disposable guns to give away.

While it doesn't show signs of DIY repair or modifications...

Wouldn't you want one, anyway?

I have no idea what these are. But they almost look homemade.

This looks like a custom stock for a pre-existing gun, rather than a complete scratch build (IMO).

And who can forget the humble, well cared for and lovingly modified sawed off shotgun.

>>81

Finally something that isn't (probably not, and not distinctively) Russian.

>>92

sad as it is to say, Russian designs are the way to go for things like assault riffles. There's more amo for it. The chance of any invading army ANYWHERE having 7.62 amo? Very very high.

but a shotgun? Now that's also a good thing to have. And the rounds are standard around the world, pretty much. Anywhere you go, you'll find a 12 gauge.

>>97

Common ammo isn't always a good thing.
Think about it.
SHTF, its TEOTWAWKI. Everyone starts looting the gun stores, grabbing 9mm, .45ACP, .357/.38SPL, .22LR, .223, .308, 7.62x39 and 54R, and of course the universal 12ga.

Meanwhile there are tons of .303, .30CAR, .224, etc. still sitting on the shelf.

Here's what I recommend. While 12ga is good, and everyone should own at least one 12ga shotgun - what are all those other rounds going to do when they're left on the shelf?

What everyone really needs, is a black powder gun (pic related).

This way you can grab a ton of ammo you maybe don't need once the common rounds have been looted. Empty out the powder. Melt down and press your own bullets. And make percussion caps out of the primers.

Ha ha! Firearms live on.

Also, reloading tools and a lead mold accomplish much the similar result, but eventually the brass cartridge WILL give out.

While a black powder weapon is a good idea, *in fact, flintlocks are not a bad thing to consider, powder, stone, a ball, and a rag, all of which CAN be made if you have the right materials*

When I talk about commonly used amo, I'm more going from a "There's a massive war, people everywhere are killing each other with guns" scenario, where your trying to survive after world war three, and what's available are the leftover military ammo supplies. Being familiar with the firearms that shoot those bullets before the war, could save your life afterwards.

Really, don't LIMIT yourself. If you can't or do not desire to keep a large supply of assorted guns on hand, at the very least train with those belonging to others. Learn how to strip and repair common hand guns and riffles, how to load them quickly, and how different rounds behave differently.

The end of the world might not come with a war on your doorstep. But knowing how to survive if it does, is just as important as knowing how to grow food and hunt.

Also, caps from primers? I didn't know you could do that without destroying the primer. They seem a bit sensitive.

The one thing Land of the Dead got right.

>>106
>When I talk about commonly used amo, I'm more going from a "There's a massive war, people everywhere are killing each other with guns" scenario, where your trying to survive after world war three, and what's available are the leftover military ammo supplies. Being familiar with the firearms that shoot those bullets before the war, could save your life afterwards.

Your SHTF planning comes from a different kind of logic than mine apparently.
The specifics of what gun you use are irrelevant, what is relevant is your situation and your familiarity with it.

The situation however, specifically my plans for the post apocalypse and what you're finding to be useful are completely different. As soon as the SHTF, I'm out of civilization and off into the Rockies.
I don't really need to worry about scavenging ammo off of my fallen enemies, and having that ammo be a military or common caliber if I'm not having to constantly defend myself (which isn't to say I wouldn't constantly be on the defense).

For this I want something accurate and reliable, caliber or even type of action isn't as much of a concern to me.
I'd really love to have a 7.5x54mm French MAS-36. Sure it's an odd cartridge, but it's solid enough and I'm comfortable using one. And even though it comes in a .308/7.62x51mm variant, I prefer the ballistics of the original 7.5mm round.
I don't need some tacticool assault weapon with high capacity magazines to feel safe (not that the AK isn't still on my list) - I do need something that will take down a decently sized target in one shot from 200y away though.

Crap, forgot image.

It's not that I expect to be in the thick of things when shit goes south. In fact, I live as far from the thick of things as I can. I live thirty miles away from the closest real town.

The reason why I go for the common military rounds for at least ONE of my guns is because it will be everywhere. There will be stockpiles of the stuff, any scouts or groups coming through my area are likely to have at least some of the 7.62 on them.

That's not to say that it's the only gun that should be on hand....everything from .22 shorts to 45-70 will be useful. 30.06, .45, .357. Every gun you can get your hands on COULD be useful.

And that includes guns that fire less common ammunition, sure. But if you need to stock up on ammunition, more common ammo is cheaper if you are preparing for the future. I know one guy who has...I don't KNOW how many .22LR rounds. They work well enough, are cheep, and for small game up to a deer, they will work JUST fine.

>>119
>But if you need to stock up on ammunition, more common ammo is cheaper if you are preparing for the future.

I don't agree with that.
.308 is a very common standardized NATO round, but it is not cheap. .223 is less expensive.
But regardless, if you're buying decent quality, the price is going to go up. .22LR is one of the few rounds where you don't worry about it...
...oh, and any form of Russian ammo.

I also don't see the point of buying 1000 rounds of cheap shit when I can buy 300 rounds of really really really good shit.

Well yes. Some common ammo is expensive. Some is less so.

And the ammo you need in a given situation isn't always going to be top quality. A load with half the powder makes half the noise, and if that will do the job and not carry as far, sometimes it will be, in it's own way, superior.

If a .22 short will do the job you want it to do, and someone on the next hillside won't be able to point at you, where a 30.06 will also do an admirable job, will be audible from much further away.

Then again, there will be times when a better round with more powder, a better bullet, and better range will be essential.

we're arguing in circles. There both valid views, to my mind. And the best solution is to be able to access guns that take all sorts of ammunition.

That's even more expensive, however. And if you REALLY get into it, the whole "small armory" problem comes into affect.

Both are very valid points and deserve consideration. Myself, I'll just get my hands on every weapon I can and stockpile all the ammo I can. Especially the ammo. See Pic.

That's the spirit >>124

however...in the picture. There's one short belt of ammunition visible. that''s hardly overkill.

I was going to post this in my /ste/ weapons thread, but considering that it's a 1911 using a Thompson forward grip and muzzle brake - seemed to dieselpunk.
Also, considering the the age and wear of the weapon, it seemed to fit in here better.

Oh, yeah, and it fires on FULL AUTO.

And if anyone wants, I have the blueprints to do this. In case you have $300 to blow on a Norinco 1911 and a machine shop.

>>140
The little info card at the bottom says it's semi-automatic.

>>151

COLT MINI .45 SUBMACHINE GUN

This replica weapon represents a "hyprid" produced by H.S. Lebman, known as the gunsmith to the "Depression Era" gangsters. He combined the parts of a 1911 Colt .45 with several parts from the Thompson to make this pistol a mini submachine gun

I...I think I'm in love.

Someone. is bloody over-prepared.

>>140

Do share, I'm sure more than one of us could appreciate them

>>155

I'm just going to post a big ol dump on rapidshit of a bunch of blueprints and full auto conversion docs. Also stuff like how to make your own silencers and shit.

Also, bumped with content, not that I have any idea what it is.

>>156

I'd certainly appreciate that.

.700 Nitro Express bolt-action rifle using an old Berret-developed action. The ammo is expensive and the recoil is a serious bitch, but one shot at 800 meters will take down an elephant.

I'm fine with that.

i love its rugged by use looks... it was captured from a weapons cache in the iraq war and got destroyed after that T_T

>>221

I actually have a great survival book called "Wilderess Evasion" which, when choosing a survival weapon, actually listed that rifle as being the worst possible choice.

Simply put, a .22LR will probably keep you alive a hell of a lot longer in the wilderness than some shoulder-mounted cannon.

Speaking of which, I absolutely love what this guy did with his Springfield M6. Wrapped the barrels in paracord, threw a knife on it, and has it ready to go.
Excellent survival rifle for when you need to be on the move.

that is a seriously stripped down riffle. I'm not quite sure how comfortable that ..inch wide stock would be against your shoulder when fired.

That said...it should be really easy to carry all day every day.

Actually, that's how it's made. It's meant to be folded and stowed in a small space, like the cockpit of a plane cockpit (which is what it was designed for).

But, sticking it in a backpack is also a really good idea because the rifle is incredibly small and lightweight, accurate, and 100% reliable.
It also uses two common forms of ammo: the 410ga shotgun shell (any size), and any size of .22 (including short and bb loads).

Sure, its not a combat weapon, its rounds aren't capable of waging war with motorcycle maniacs in the desert. But if you're a mountain man with no one else in sight, you haven't seen another human being for years, and need to go out and kill some small game?
I'd much rather have that than a Kalashnikov.

This is a keltec su-16c, it fires a .223 and accepts m16 magazines. It could be good considering it's foldable and is chambered in a combat/hunting round.

>>240

Actually a piece of shit. The stock screws start coming apart after firing, the recoil is excessive because the gun really doesn't have much structure, and trying to put the bipod/grip thing back together after you've popped it out is difficult (not to mention if you screw up, it takes a big chunk out of your hand).

Huh. Thus the two barrels, I guess.

I do love .22. There a great, common use round. And a .22LR multi-shot riffle is all you really "need". You can hunt everything up to deer with it, and it can take down bears, If you know where to shoot.

The .410 makes me wonder though. It's not exactly the most common round. Those are the ones you can put in a .357 right?

I'm not sure Dra, but I know that taurus recently came out with a revolver that shoots .410/.45 ammo. I would just worry about putting different kinds of ammo in guns. Like you can put .32 S&W and .32 H&R Mag, through a Russian Nagant revolver, but it doesn't seal all the way and can cause loss of power and eventual damage to the gun.

Just because you can do it when you need to doesn't mean you should all the time.

But the ability is nice.

>>245

I don't know how recent you think the Taurus Tracker/Judge revolver is, because the thing has been on the market for a few years now.

>>246

Some weapons are capable of that (like the above-mentioned Taurus revolver), however, I'm not sure if all .410ga barrels are capable of handling .45LC.
I'm pretty sure most barrels meant for .45LC will handle .410ga without a problem (don't quote me on that), but the cylinder or breach would have to be large enough (such as how the Taurus Tracker/Judge is more elongated than it needs to be).

The judge was released in 07, so it's pretty new. I can't say the exact month, but gunblast reviewed it in July of 07.

>>251

But the Judge itself is just a different variant of the Tracker with (I believe) a slightly longer cylinder allowing it to take an extra kind of .410ga shell.
So really I should have said that the .45LC/.410ga revolvers have been around for a while. And even though Taurus now call all the Trackers as Judges - the design is a bit older.

What about weapons that don't use bullets?

When your in a gunfight with roaming bandits, or fighting of a wave of zombies, a semi-automatic rifle or pistol is the thing to have.

But what about when you need stealth, or you can't afford to waist a bullet you might need to defend yourself when hunting for game?

How many of you have a bow, a crossbow, maybe a blowgun, or even something as simple as a slingshot, stashed away with some ammo?

or even better...what about compressed air powered weapons? Sure, it wouldn't work for a human, but 20-30 PSI in a small pressure tank blown through a pipe will propel a small ball bearing fast enough to take out small animals, scare of predictors, and is completely re-usable.

>>259

20-30 psi? Uhm, most air rifles usually have 800-1500 psi. In 1804 I think even Lewis & Clark carried around an air rifle capable of those pressures.
Capable of laying a small lil projectiles down range and yeah, possibly could take out very small game (for rabbit or quail sizes).

However, air rifles are in no way silent. A properly charged air rifle is about as loud as a .22 short.

And as for bow-powered weapons, I mean...the lack of a firing rate limits their use in combat, obviously. For hunting - go for it though.

And in closing, silencers for firearms are ridiculously easy to make. I enclosed a few how-to PDFs in that rapidshare upload I made. Seen silencers made out of everything from automobile shock absorbers to Mag Lite flashlights. (pic related)

As I said. For every day use. Not for combat.

And the entire goal isn't silent. A bow is a great option if you need to make a single silent shot. The air canon is not.

And i'm not talking factory made air riffles. I'm talking homemade small scale potato cannon. A pressure tank, a tube, and a small ball, or perhaps dart. There actually a lot more capable than you might think.

Dilapidated and runs on twin screws...kinda like the Shagohod from MGS3, but actually exists.

Is that a land transport that runs on SCREWS?

I've gotta see that in action. More information please?

>>283

Soviet ZIL.
Actually works quite well over soft surfaces like mud, snow, marshes, tundra, etc. - the sort of stuff that is impassible with wheeled vehicles and difficult even with tracked vehicles (such as tanks).

If I ever lived in a swampy or snowy area, I'd totally consider getting one.

Er, Buckyballs?

ZIL is a auto company. They make/made everything from DUCK type vehicles to sports cars.

also, it appears to be a ZIL29061, with a little more research.

I LOVE the design.

>>290
>>291

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uftJ3JJQk4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynmApjhWI

Some footage of it in action, though you've probably already seen it.

>>292

yeah. Saw those. It really is a rather amazing vehicle. I read somewhere that there was a Chrysler made screwdrive prototype that also functioned as a boat. Now that'ed be the way to go. Land, snow, water, sand...everything but pavement, pretty much.

Back to the subject of guns...I've found a few pictures of homemade guns, of varying use and quality.

I'm fairly sure most of these are single shot guns, at that.

Remarkably complex, and apparently mostly from a hardware store.

I wouldn't want to have to rely on any of these. But interesting to see what people have been able to do, when they "needed" to.

I rather fear most of these come from active war zones or some third world country where they were used by gangs or robbers or something.

This one clearly was...note the badge of some sort on the person demonstrating the shotgun that is...apparently, a couple of bits of pipe.

>>307
LOL, WTF IS THAT XD
Ya think they fire the pistol into the primer of the shot-shell to set it off?! XD What an efficient setup! XD

>>331

...no. thats just a revolver. the shotgun is probably part of a flashbang...a few bits of pipe, an end cap, and a few other bits to make a crude single shot shotgun.

More improvised weapons and converted weapons!

After my fuck up of the dual AR-15 post, I apologize.

Actually a Mosin Nagant, and again, sorry about that AR-15 post...

>>448

Gota love random gun threads.

>>449

I'd like to think that my gun threads are themed...kinda...

>>450

I was talking about the source of the images :p. I saw all of yours on another chan, with the one I posted, the other night.

>>451

OPERATORchan?

>>452

Indeed.

So many pretty guns there.

Now THAT's some fucking improvisation!

>>456

yeah. I'd love to see some schematics.

REVIVAL!

I bring you a six barreled shotgun, pepper-box style from what I can see.

>>499

Crap, forgot image, DAMN YOU JAMESON!

I actually thought this was kind of cool...

Used to be an old PMM Makarov, now it's a machine pistol.

anyone have instructions or somthing on how to make a supressor. i have a general idea but i wanted to see how other people have done it so i can compare before i start

>>546

I had a few in an upload I put here a while back, but the file probably still isn't on Rapidshare. I'll have to find my flash drive and upload it again.

Most of them instruct you on how to do it for a .22LR, but the concept is the same for most silencers. With .22LR though, if you fuck up and something goes wrong, chances are you're not going to hurt yourself.

This is all very illegal in the US of course without proper authorization from the BATFE.

its only illegal if you get caught

>>554

Yeah, but that carries with it a felony and going to federal pound-in-the-ass prison.

Most of the stuff you'll need you can find on this site...
http://krelated.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/njoy/
...I highly recommend the Poor Man's James Bond books.

Pic: possibly a future SHTF rifle purchase of mine.

>>587

If only for the fact that they're tough as nails, made of good steel, and the Russians made 40,000,000 of them alone (not counting other countries).

I'm in the opinion that everyone should own at least one Mosin Nagant.

Personally, I still like the >>79 idea of taking a cheap M44 and just cutting it down into a pistol. A lot of the Nordic countries did that for the early part of the 20th century and well after WWII.

I think they used it as a headshot pistol for hunting and "fishing" though ("fishing" meaning seals and whale). Not to mention it'd make a handy lil sap.

>>599
the russians do seem to do it better. just look at the AK rifles, they may not be as acurate but because they are made with higher tolerances you can treat the gun like shit (to a certain point) and still expect it to work.

>>620 Me by the way, Forgot meh name

How rare is a Mosin With all the parts having matching serial numbers

>>620

What you say is partly true. Is the AK a superior weapon? Not individually. Point is, it's cheap and works under the worst conditions.
Compare it to the FN FAL though, albeit a battle rifle, it boasts close to the same reliability but has far superior accuracy and stopping power while still being reliable...it's just...in the class of the SVD Dragunov and the M-14/M1A.

Now I'm a huge AK fan, I think they're brilliant weapon, and very close to being the cat's balls. Are they the cat's balls though? Of course not.

Russian =/= perfection. But they have admirable traits suitable to our needs.

The AK is a good example, but the Mosin-Nagant is not.

The Mosin-Nagant was an OKAY rifle. Was the Mauser superior? The 1903? YES.
Point is, for how cheap the Mosins are, and for how numerous they are - they make a phenomenal weapon.

>>622

For a Russian and E-bloc Mosin, not at all hard to have matching serial numbers.
The Nordic countries...despite being of "superior quality" in their barrels, often swapped out parts. So a pure Finnish Mosin Nagant is a collector's item usually costing around $500...as opposed to an E-bloc one costing $100 and a Russian one costing $200-300.

That's Charlton Heston's personal armory, I remember it from a series of photos I saw of it.
Anyway, I present you with the Remington 1740. A double-barreled pump-action shotgun. I win.
http://www.lesjones.com/2008/06/16/double-barrel-pump-shotgun-moe-szyslak-style/

>>641

So it's two 870s fused together? Yeah, that's easily the most redneck thing I've seen in a while - big, ugly, heavy.
Not anything ingenious like a Neostead, just two 870s bubba-neered together - perfect.

What about this for improvising :)

>>643

Holy fucking shit! If that thing was accurate and doesn't blow up in your hand then you've got the ultimate Derringer!

>>644

Well...that and the fact that the revolver was meant to fire .22LR, so...you probably couldn't make that work without modding it for centerfire cartridges.
Not to mention that .308 would have absolutely no velocity (no confinement).

I think it would have been more deadly if you left it as the .22LR revolver.

>>645
That's a toy cap gun, sport.

>>659

Oh, no shit...just assumed those were chambers before. Silly me.

Here's a rivet-head girl about to inflict some serious pain to her own shoulder (and possibly tailbone).

The Glock. Preferably in 9mm or .40SW. Not that I really believe the whole "exploding Glock" myth, but because I don't think .45ACP should be fired in a polymer frame gun.

Besides, if it can survive this...

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

...the apocalypse seems like little consequence. And yes, they really did drop it out of an airplane.

Been a while since I made any weapons posts...so here's a Sten gun.

Plans for these can be found all over the internet, and they can actually be made by someone with access to a hardware store, a drill, a vice, and a set of files.

>>775
I'm a britfag and I was thinking about making a gun, but only when I have access to a lathe.

Then there's the problem of bullets.

>>777

While you don't specifically need a lathe for something simple like a Sten, it makes the production of firearms far easier.

What you do need however, for the barrel, is a reamer. It's VERY specific, and not easy to come by, especially when you live in a police state - since I'm assuming it would be a little suspicious to be buying barrels online.

As for the ammo. Take a trip over here, Czech Republic, make some Swiss friends, etc. Take all your brass home with you.
Alternatively, you guys can get blank firing replicas, right? Take the blanks, neck them, cast your bullets. Make sure they're centerfire though.

And await your friendly bobbies to swing by to pay you a visit for me giving you this advice, apparently the CCTV outside can see in through the window onto your computer, lol.

Can't ID it, looks DIY.

Assuming .22LR, using old AR-7 magazines.

>>778
Ah, thanks.
I doubt it would be suspicious, when I get a lathe I will attach a drill to it, or get one pre-built, I don't think they're that hard to come by really.

I'm not too happy about hopping bullets over the border and I have no clue about where I can get blanks, a press and some powder.

>>780

No no no, don't bring live rounds over the border, just bring the brass. Primers you can punch out yourself, though it's not easy. Bullets can of course be melted and cast.
The powder...the powder is a tough one. Your rounds won't have a lot of energy using homemade powder, but...better than a crossbow (which I also assume are banned).
As for the press...I think you're going to have to build your own, or see about getting a tiny little "lee loader".
Upon successful completion of this project I'd like to mention you'd be the most likely person in the UK to survive.

That being said, see what you can do to keep my mother from getting eaten by zombies, a'ight?

>>806

More people have firearms in Britain than you think.

First off all there's all the old people that didn't hand in their weapons.

Second of all are farmers, it's much easier to get a shotgun license too, which is different to a firearms license.

Clay shooting

Hunters, generally rich people who usually have show pieces.

Then general shooting enthusiasts, there's few ranges here and there, often filled with weapons, there's also a gun shop in my smallish town.

There's an illegal trade here too, mostly pistols and they always mention home made weapons.

Oh and of course military/police.

I have no clue about crossbows being banned, I remember something about the church banning them along time ago, I think bows are pretty common in England too.

Thanks a lot for the advice bro, I've looked around on the Internet for buying lathes and they're cheaper than I thought, around £2k or less, I could get one later this year.

>>809
>More people have firearms in Britain than you think.

Oh I know, I almost got kicked out of the Holland & Holland store. Still...there's something to be said for an over-under shotgun and an 11-shot pump.

If you need any blueprints and PDFs, let me know, I'd be more than happy to help you out (got about 3GB of the shit).

>lathes...around £2k or less

Yeah, and buying em used really helps. Still, more than I can afford currently...not to mention I have no place to put the thing.

>>831
That'd be awesome! I already have a few .pdf's anyway, also a Gatling Gun blueprint I think.

>>833

Let me know what you want/need, I'll dig through my blueprints and instructions.

I should note that most weapons function similarly, such as an open-bolt SMG, so even if it isn't the gun you want - it will function in the same way.

You know you guys want to build one...

>>983
Hey, I wish the instructions were more detailed than that, also I lost every last .pdf I had , I'd like .pdfs of well....easy things to build. Also god damn it i can't see what i'm typing because i changed font, this might be a mess.

>>983

Fuck yes. Needs better instructions, but I feel like making one of those RIGHT NOW!

Didn't someone make a real life shishkabab too?

>>1258

Closest thing I could find.

http://www.luxotica.com/education/howtomake/sword.php

Make fire-katanas to your hearts content.

>>1259

...

GET

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FUCK

OUT

>>1259
What a retarded and ineffective weapon!

>>1267

Well no shit.

I'm pretty sure it's more for show. Cutting up zeds is one thing, but if your sword is on fire while you do it?

Why the hell not I say.

>>1268
Did you check it out? getting it on fire involves covering your blade edge with woven fabric. Not exactly an effective sword after that.

>>1273
Oh snap! If you were to use it, you'd likely cut off the nice new wick! Awww, sonofabitch!

Fuck the sawed-off barrel Stoeger.

Tiny pumps for the win.

>>1514
With my sawed off shotgun, hand on the pump Left hand on a forty, puffin' on a blunt
Pumped my shotgun, niggas didn't jump, lala la la lala la laaaa ...
(also: LOL! service with a smile! [gun on the right] awesomely cynical.)

After a while...